slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Dear eBay Sellers,

I love you guys, seriously. You make it possible for me to find nice stuff for cheap, and I appreciate that, I do. But.

Kids, would it kill you to list some of your small-band, big-cup bras with something other than a size XS or S pair of panties? If you want to do the set thing, that's cool, but you have to understand: not all women with teeny rib cages and enormous breasts have small hips. Some do; some are just top-heavy, some have implants. But this is the thing. The holy-fucking-shit-hourglass body type also exists. I can have a 28, 30, 32 band size and 43.5" hips. I need panties in a large or extra large.

Your sets are cute! Don't get me wrong. And I am totally conditioned to do the matching-bra-and-panties thing, even though in the scheme of things it's completely pointless. But if you ever wonder, why does this buyer always snap up my cheap 32Fs when they're on their own but never the ones that come with the adorable XS panties? Here's your answer: I haven't worn that size panties since middle school. That was about 60 pounds ago.

Anyway, thanks for the cheap Buy It Now price and prompt shipping! Keep kicking ass.

Yours very truly,
Wolf A. Woman, Slytherin
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Y'all, my dad gave me some cash for food until the food stamps came through, like, literally the day before the food stamps came through, and since my ass1 has expanded beyond the comfortable proportions of all my currently-owned pants, and I am a size 14-16 woman wearing a size 10 winter coat, I am taking the cash shopping.

I am currently planning The Route. Along The Route are stationed five or six consignment and thrift shops in town, through which I will make my circuitous way looking for The Coat and some pants, on the way to the street the mall is on, where I will also find TJ Maxx. TJ Maxx will hopefully have a coat in my size for cheap if I can't find one at the thrift/consignment shops. Then, if all else fails, there is Sears and JCPenney clearance. And if that fails me, I will stalk the eBay women's outerwear section for a while longer.

Why, you might ask, do I not just go buy a coat at Walmart? Well, because I'm picky. Among relevant aspects of my pickiness in this instance are my distaste for synthetic parkas and color-blocked windbreaker-looking winter coats and preference for something classic and mid-thigh-to-knee-length in at least a wool blend2, and my insistence that any coat I buy actually be long enough in the arms, which usually means tall sizes.

Tall sizes are a huge dilemma for me, y'all. I have these obnoxiously long arms and legs3, but I also have this obnoxiously short waist.4 But then I also have these obnoxiously enormous breasts. And so the combination of all this means that I wind up buying tall sizes in things like shirts and coats, and because of The Tits, the waist falls in the right place in the front, but about 4" lower in the back. I just have to suck it up until I become more proficient with my sewing machine and can make this stuff myself.

Tall sizes in pants are not nearly as problematic. The problem I have in pants is that they never have enough ass depth, including the Right Fit ones, and the back waist is always lower than the front waist. I have this problem with pants, too, if my UK and anglophile peeps follow me.

Wolfie has a bubble butt, or what may variously be known as "badonkadonk" and/or "I like big butts and I cannot lie" and/or "fat-bottomed girls, you make the rocking world go round".

Meanwhile, in each store, I am going to comb through the lingerie section and see if there are any cheap and/or clearance bras in my size. I ordered two from eBay, noticed the seller was in Hong Kong and shipping takes 12-30 business days, and have been waiting a week for a shipping notice; I need something now. I can't be waiting around. My band size has gone up to 32, and I can only stand to wear my 30s for about three hours before sharp, horrific pain blooms in a bright line around my underbust. Also they make that sort of little ridge of back fat, like a reverse muffin top, sticking out from the bottom edge of the band, which is considered unsightly under clothing and, while it shouldn't matter because that kind of thing is bullshit, will plant the subconscious idea in the heads of potential interviewers that I am not "put together" or whatever. Also also, the band tries to crawl down to a thinner part of my rib cage and takes support with it, so I am standing hunched over like my grandmother again.5

Bright side: this means I'm a 32DDD/E(UK)/F(US) instead of a 30F(UK)/G(US), and stores like Macy's actually carry a few bras in my size. Which means I can try bras on before I actually purchase them, maybe, and not have to pay return shipping when most of them don't fit.6

Meanwhile, also, I have to buy new makeup. I could not give less of a shit about makeup, y'all, and would be perfectly happy with the dusty little tubes and compacts in the old makeup box I bought in college, but when I did an Interview Makeup test run, my face broke out and my eyes were stinging for three days. Also the texture of it all was just bad news. That shit is A) expired, B) contaminated with badness and bacteria or C) both.

Which makes sense since the newest items were the ones I bought for my wedding a year and a half ago. And I couldn't actually find that stuff. Supposedly you're supposed to buy new makeup every 6 months or something? Yeah. Bad badness.

Anyway. I have about $200 to do all this. I need a winter coat, that's priority #1, because I can't be going around in one that's two sizes too small. I need one pair of jeans. I can wear the same pair all week and then wear the ones that don't fit while I'm doing the laundry, I'm all right with that, but if I could find two for cheap I would be really happy. If I see interview clothes on the clearance rack that look amazing on me and are under $15 per garment, I'll pick them up, but it's not a priority, because that's one of the things MRS7 can help me with once I get through their orientation process. And I need to get makeup, probably including stupid foundation, which is a pain in the ass to buy because the palest shade8 is always optimized for natural redheads, who tend to have warm undertones. Mine are cool. Maybe I will just skip it.

Oh, and I need to get a new purse. One that my stuff actually fits in without bulging out, and that has a shorter drop than the one I have so it will sit on the shelf of my hip without the straps falling off my shoulder. I can't carry a purse that hangs down alongside my hip, it's uncomfortable; I have a nice purse gap area between my arm and waist that works, but to have something against my hip I have to stick my elbow out funny and it just doesn't work.

Anyway, after that Nigel and I may be going to the movies, if we can find anything on that we're willing to see. Which is pretty doubtful. White America is all het up over Avatar right now and you know I'm not going to see that. Of course Sherlock Holmes is already gone, fuck you Carmike. I kind of want to see Daybreakers, but Nigel doesn't.

Anyway. Hopefully I will find all of the stuff I need. Probably I will find some of the stuff I need. If I can't find any of it I will be sad.

1. Well, really the discomfort is in the gut area when I sit down, but since Fashion Bug no longer carries the Right Fit jeans I like, any new pants I buy are going to be way too big in the waist anyway, and it is also true that I'm wearing pants for a 40.5" hip while having a 43.5" hip.
2. And I don't mean 90% poly 10% wool. That shit will not stand. I live in Michigan; I need something that will actually keep me warm.
3. Like everyone else in my mom's family. Although it may actually be due to my joint condition.
4. Apparently the rule of thumb is that average-waisted women can fit two hand-widths between the bottom of their tits and their natural waist. I can barely fit one hand-width, and I have tiny hands.
5. My paternal grandmother, the short Italian one with enormous breasts. Which is where I think I get my enormous breasts and short torso, especially the latter if my long limbs are joint-condition-related.
6. And most of them won't, because the current bra sizing system takes into account only ribcage circumference and breast volume, not breast depth or width or height, so I have to find not only the right size but a cut and style that fits.
7. Michigan Rehabilitation Services helps people with disabilities find appropriate employment.
8. Women at the other end of the shade spectrum have an even harder time, because I have seen the darkest shade of foundation most companies make and half the black women I know are darker than that. Dear makeup companies: clue. Get one.
slythwolf: (BULLSHIT)
This is Figleaves' page explaining how to measure oneself for a bra. They have started promoting this bullshit idea that you should add 4-5" to your rib cage measurement to find your band size. WHY? WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO MEEEEEEEEE D:

Dear Figleaves: No, my happy ass should not be in a 32-34* band. If I do that, the band rides up around my shoulder blades and I have no support. Why? Well, because the band is supposed to fit snugly. TO SUPPORT THE BREASTS BY STAYING IN PLACE ARRRRGH

Some women do need to add a couple inches to find their band size. If you don't carry any squishy flesh on your rib cage, you probably have to go up about 2" to get a comfortable fit. BUT NO ONE NEEDS TO GO UP 4-5". THAT IS SIMPLY BULLSHIT.

Who came up with this shit anyway? This I need to know. I keep hearing that, decades ago, this was an accurate way to find the correct fit, and I want to know why. First of all, it's needlessly confusing. Measure your rib cage and that ought to be the number on your band size; it just doesn't make sense otherwise, unless you're using numbers that have nothing to do with anything, the way the rest of women's clothing is sized in this country.

I did think for a moment that maybe it was because the fabric used to make bras was not as elastic in the past as what we use now, but that would only make sense if one started out with the current system and adjusted the numbers backward in time for the change in fabric.

What it probably comes down to is that women's clothing has traditionally been made by men, and men like to complicate things unnecessarily so that women can't get a foothold in certain industries and they, the men, can feel big and important.

Anyway. GOD DAMMIT, FIGLEAVES. I thought you were better than this.

* Some days my rib cage measures 28" exactly. Some days it's closer to 29". For this reason I intend, once I have some money, to keep around a selection of 28FF and 30F bras in the styles I like.

Argh

Aug. 27th, 2009 12:53 pm
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Mentioned to my mom that I can't buy new bras or underwear until Nigel finishes his training period and starts getting his full per-mile pay, sometime in the middle of October. She told my sister to buy me bras and underwear for my birthday. My sister wants to send me a Victoria's Secret gift card and I don't know how to dissuade her.

They don't make bras in my size, number one. Number two, I don't like the underwear they make. But you can't say these things to my sister--you can't just tell her, "I'm happy with granny panties from Walmart," because she doesn't believe you. I know. I've tried.

Also, I hate giving Victoria's Secret business because they perpetuate a lot of myths about bra sizing; they want you to measure your band size around your pecs, above your breasts. There's a lot of extra tissue up there that never sees a bra band. If I measure that way, I wind up in a 32 band, which doesn't provide any support. And then they do this thing where if you go into the store and they try to fit you and they don't carry your size? They try to sell you a sister cup size, like for instance say their method puts me in a 32DDD, and they don't carry that (I think they may actually carry it in one or two styles, but for the sake of argument), so they try to sell me a 34DD or a 36D. And that doesn't do anyone any good. Vicky's Secret is causing a lot of women a lot of discomfort and even pain and I would never disparage another woman's choice to get a reduction because it's your body and you do what you think is best, but I think their fitting methods lead to a lot of unnecessary reductions in women who could have just got a properly fitting bra and been fine but don't know it.

Sigh. I wish I had the kind of relationship with my family where I could ask for what I really want for my birthday, which is a bolt or two of muslin to get to work on my patterns so that when I do get bras that fit I can also make clothing that fits properly to wear over them.
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Cut out the muslins today to check my bodice and skirt slopers for fit. I have the bodice one put together and am wearing it right now and--omg--it doesn't need any adjustments.

Is it me, or am I awesome?

I'm just going to take a pen and doodle princess seams on it so I can go ahead and take that apart and trace it out. And then I'm going to take the original sloper and chop it up to give it an empire waist with vertical bust darts, and use that to make camisoles and full slips.

I have some satin with an Asian-inspired jacquard design in this nice green color left over from when I made my bridesmaids' purses, and I'm going to make a test camisole out of that. Cutting on the bias is something I haven't done before, so definitely a dry run before I start ordering silk. And oh yes, my slips and camisoles will be silk. I cannot be having with polyester; it doesn't breathe. I can get silk charmeuse from Fashion Fabrics Club for something like $9 a yard, so: win.

I need to get me a table for my sewing machine or this all is going to take about ten times longer than it has to. And I need to get me some silk pins, but I'm sure I can pick those up at Hobby Lobby.

Meanwhile I still have to put my skirt muslin together. I'll probably try it by itself and then attach it to the bodice to make sure my waist is where I'm fairly sure it is.

Anywho I had better get going on this seamline-drawing thing; sitting up straight in this thing is starting to hurt my back, because all my bras that fit are starting to fall apart. I have no support and my tits want to pull my shoulders forward.
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
So once in a while I'll post about some garb I'm making or something ongoing I'm working on but the thing is, there are a lot of other little projects I work on that you, the readers, never get to hear about.

Today I finished a work of cross-stitch bearing the legend "EAT COLD STEEL PIGDOG". The Discworld fans in the house will probably know what that's all about.

Additionally, I've been drafting slopers for myself--it's a strange and frustrating process, because with my enormous breasts, my tiny waist, and my short torso (not 7" armpit to waist as I had originally thought, but six and a half omfg), the angles are just not at all something the available instructions anticipate. For instance, it's pretty much impossible for me to make a sloper that's going to fit with only one dart in it. I need to have the waist dart--wider than is generally standard--and then I need about a 3-4" underarm dart. Most likely I will just change it to a princess-seam sloper because I'm pretty much just going to put them in everything; I think they look better than the waist-and-underarm dart combination. One with standard princess seams, one with shoulder ones, maybe? Hmm.

I have to do a lot of fudging and retracing and so I start with tracing paper. I'm not going to put anything on the more durable paper I have until I've fitted some muslins and know it's right.

So after about five, six hours' work last night, I have a preliminary front bodice sloper. The back is going to go a lot more quickly, but I just cannot face spreading all my crap out on the floor again to get started.

When I do a skirt sloper that will also probably be easier; while I do have a tiny waist and enormous hips and ass, the nature of the darts and whatnot in skirts is such that it's not going to be as weird. Although I did realize something the other day.

[livejournal.com profile] bloodchan gave me a bunch of clothes she didn't want anymore, fairly recently, that are cute and happened to fit me. I took a grey plaid pleated skirt that is a little big in the waist on the basis that it was going to be easy to take it in.

Well, easy, yes, just a bit of sewing, anyone can do it.

The trouble is, when I pin the waist to where it needs to be, and unzip the zipper, I can't get the skirt down over my hips. That's how big the difference between my waist and hips is. That's how much of an hourglass I am. I am such an hourglass that when I make skirts and trousers that will fit me, I'm going to have to use a longer zipper than standard.

Maybe I can do a standard zipper in the normal place, and also insert a hidden zipper into the side seam on one side. Things that already take hidden side zippers--well, I can put another one on the other side, or I can use a longer zipper. It needs thinking about.

Anyway. My plan is to make two wool suits (jacket, skirt and trousers) and two linen ones; some other pairs of trousers; some other skirts; a couple day dresses; a bunch of shirts and blouses; a bunch of camisoles; a black silk dress for Little Black Dress purposes and a matching jacket in case of funerals; three full and two half slips; and a bunch of sweaters for various purposes. I'm going to make all this stuff as classic and basic as I can, but make it all fit incredibly well, put extra room in the seams in case I gain more weight, and take really good care of it. I will be set for any possible job interview, most special occasions, and any job I manage to get (unless it provides a uniform in which case I would be set anyway).

Then I will buy some good neutral shoes in classic styles and a good-quality purse that I can carry year-round that will look professional and also be at least twice the size of the one I have all my crap crammed into now. And every season or so, I will change my accessories.

I have a color palette. My fall/winter suits are going to be black and charcoal, the summer ones will be white and navy, and I have a list of six or seven colors that everything else will be that I can then wear with any of those pieces. I have it written down somewhere. What I need to do next, really, and as soon as possible, to really get this project rolling, is drive over to Jackson and get fitted for some new bras. I know my 30Fs aren't fitting right anymore. I've been estimating that I wear a 30FF now, but I have never actually been fitted, and I should do that, and buy some bras I can try on first instead of ordering them online. Then I can make sure everything fits over, you know, properly fitting undergarments.

Then I have to buy all my fabric for each suit at once, and preferably for all four at once, but I'm going to leave the jackets until last to make because I'm going to have to disappear into a couple of tailoring books before I get started or they will turn out like something out of the Simplicity catalog. (Do not stiffen your suit jacket collars with fusible interfacing. And please, please do not bag line them. Just: no.)

But so okay, here's the other thing. I have these two poly satin camisoles that I picked up from Sears a year or so ago because they were on sale for $5. They don't fit right, obviously. I am currently sitting with one of them on my lap with a couple dozen pins in it, having determined what kinds of darts and tucks I need to take in it to make it fit. And I am basting them in to check the fit, and then I am going to dismantle it and put it back together again--properly--and when it fits and is happy I will then take it apart again and trace out a pattern from it. Because? It is probably the best way to figure out what shapes I need if I'm cutting something on the bias.

It is empire-waisted. Taking bigger bust darts and moving things around makes it a lot lower cut than it was probably intended to be, but not indecently so, and there is enough fabric there to cover my tits all the way to the bottom, which was a pleasant surprise. Plus I can build whatever underarm dart I need into the underbust seam. I am probably going to base my full slip pattern on this as well, just flare it out over the hips.

Also, I have cut out my burgundy linen and my black linen to make two more basic early period tunics. The black one is going to be knee-length (I had not quite three yards of 55" fabric) but the burgundy one will go all the way to the floor. When I have those constructed, and have finished the blue wool one, I'm going to cut out my green wool twill and make another floor-length one. Four tunics, no waiting. I can layer them in different ways for temperature control. Eventually I'm going to need several more, but it's not a bad start.

Whee!

May. 29th, 2009 09:32 am
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Some of you may be aware that I'm working on knitting myself a winter jacket. It's in a bulky (or possibly super-bulky) wool I picked up on eBay a couple of years ago and suddenly got inspiration for, that cost me about $10 IIRC, and is in linen stitch. The neat thing about linen stitch is, at least from my experience with this, it's not as stretchy or stretchy in the same way as stockinette; it's a slip pattern, and those horizontal bits you see in the image of the right side of the fabric are what knitters call "floats", basically places where you pull the yarn across to the next stitch instead of making a new one right there, and in essence when people talk about linen stitch "mimicking" a woven pattern, what they're overlooking is that it is partially woven. Which means it has a grain, and bias, sort of in a similar way that regular woven fabric has. Which is neat, and helps me out with how I'm going to cut a woven lining. (This is pretty scratchy stuff, it needs a lining.)

I am hoping to be able to pick up some Thinsulateā„¢ to interline it with, because as Nigel rightly pointed out one layer of wool is not as hardcore as Michigan winters really need. But the two yards I found on eBay have expired, and me too broke to pay for them; and most of my Googling has turned up those pre-made jacket liners, which will not in any way fit into the jacket I have designed.

It's going to actually fit me, you see.

Standard, commercially available jackets--and liners made for them--don't.

In light of that, some lessons I have learned in the process of designing this thing:

- just how short my torso is (armpit to waist: 7"--and I'm 5'8")
- just how big my boobs are
- just how enormous the difference really is between my waist and hip measurements (28" and 42", respectively, but now I've seen it in the "skirt" of this jacket, and holy crap)
- that my "hip" measurement is mostly ass, which is why my pants never fit (for both meanings of the word "pants")
- that I apparently have a knack, an instinct, for draping patterns
- that flying by the seat of my pants in knitting flat pattern shapes works better than trying to work out all the math ahead of time
- that I can totally crib these same pattern shapes and use them to make, like, linen summer dresses

I am almost finished with the "skirt" pieces, at which point I'll have to tackle the sleeves. I want to put the seam at the back like in Elizabethan clothing, because I have side-front and side-back seams rather than an actual side seam and I think it would be attractive to line it up with the back one, and because it works with the kind of cuff I want to do. But we'll see what I come up with.

Then I have to baste the whole thing together and figure out where, along the side-front seams, I want the pockets to fall. And whether I should bother putting in an inside breast pocket.

Then eventually I have to start thinking about buttons.

Huh.

May. 7th, 2009 02:54 am
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
So, somehow I've got to find/dig up that chart in the [livejournal.com profile] thirty_twod memories about cup size equivalents across bra brands. Because in Lepel and Freya, I definitely wear a 30F, but I've known for a while that I have to go up a cup size in Panache, and recently I bought a bra on eBay (it was $9.99 including shipping--how could I resist?) that is Pour Moi?'s Jewels line, and is a 30F, and is definitely a cup size too small.

The other thing is, I guess my rib cage is weirdly shaped or something because the 30 band size is definitely right but the straps are too wide apart in the back; specifically on the left side it wants to crawl toward my armpit and twist up. Am trying to work out how to take them apart and fix this. Possibly I will experiment with the Pour Moi?, since its cups are too small anyway.

Gah!

Apr. 30th, 2009 09:32 pm
slythwolf: (BULLSHIT)
Dear random person on Ravelry,

If they stock your bra size at Walmart, you have no right to claim it's a hard size to find.

No love,
the Wolf (who has to order hers on the internets)
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
I may have to disable anonymous comments at my JournalFen mirror. They're always from douchebags. I don't know what it is, but anonymice at JournalFen never have anything worthwhile to say.

Take this, for example, in response to my recent post about my enormous breasts:

*plays world's smallest violin for the pretty girls*


That was a pretty douchebag thing to say.

Listen, anonymouse. The post wasn't about how pretty I am, or how hard it is to be pretty. It wasn't even about how hard it is to have big tits and a small band size, although I do talk about that sometimes (such as when I'm complaining that the absolute cheapest bras that come in my size cost about $40 each, or that the tops I can buy in stores don't fit me). It was about most people's fundamental misunderstanding of how bra sizes work.

The message of the post was this: Don't assume women with big tits are fat. Don't assume fat women have big tits. Don't assume skinny women have small ones.

And remember, the next time you complain about me talking about how pretty I think I am: I'm not the one who defined prettiness as being skinny with big tits.
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Seriously, people. If I tell you I wear a 30F (UK size, which is a 30G in most US manufacturers), that means my bust measurement is about 37-38". When I say David's Bridal doesn't carry my size in a longline bra, I'm talking about the fact that mainstream stores don't carry any bras in 28 or 30 bands higher than a B cup (or a C at the outside), because it's common knowledge that nobody but preteens has a ribcage that small. In other words, David's Bridal doesn't carry my bra size because I am too skinny.

I'm really trying not to write this post in a way that comes off as, "But I'm not fat!" Because there's not one goddamn thing wrong with being fat. But it is also true that I'm...not. My thin privilege doesn't go away because I have big tits. It sticks around. It gets modified by the carrot-and-stick that is big-tits-having privilege/oppression, which is made up of all the ways the patriarchy uses me and women like me to fuck with all the rest of you and make you feel like you're supposed to get implants, and all the ways the patriarchy uses my tits as an excuse to punish me for existing while female. And also all the ways the fashion industry ignores body shapes that don't conform to their standard pattern shapes, which is damn near everybody.

But my size is not made a problem for me. I can shop at mainstream clothing stores and tend to wear a medium or large. My wedding dress was a size 10, which translates to about a 6 or 8 in normal sizing because wedding dress sizes are insane. It would have had to be bigger if it had a fitted skirt, because I have hips and an ass, and as the matter stood my tits were not entirely contained in the tit section of the bodice (it wasn't long enough vertically), but they were entirely contained within the dress. I did not have to special order anything. I did not worry, when I went into David's Bridal, that they might not carry dresses big enough for me. I knew they weren't going to be able to sell me anything I liked in my price range, but that's another issue; the point is that when I say, "I wear a 30F, they don't carry my bra size," it's ridiculous for someone to come back with, "Yeah, it's tough being plus-sized. Were you able to find a dress?"

F-cups are not as big as you think they are, people. I know what you picture, if you A) haven't seen me/pictures of me1 within the past year and B) don't wear a small band and a large cup yourselves (or are close to someone who does). You picture a bra with cups big enough to rock a baby in. You wonder how I can stand up, how I can balance, you tell me it's okay if I want to get a reduction. So I am giving you some homework.

Go to your local Walmart or a department store. Go to the lingerie section. Find a bra that is a 36D or a 38C.

Look at the cups.

That is how big my tits are. It's just that my ribcage is only 28-29" around.

And for those of you who are very confused, when I say "30F", the "30" part is the band of my bra, not my dress size.

1. The picture I photoshopped red hair onto a couple weeks ago doesn't count, because it was taken when I was 20. I was wearing a 32B then, although I should probably have been in a 30C; I weighed 120 pounds then2 and have gained 40 in the interim.
2. I used to be really skinny. My hips have always been wide compared to the rest of me because that's just how the bones are set, but if I could find a dress with a full skirt I used to be able to buy it in a size 2.
slythwolf: Some unlucky soul has an incomplete Pai Sho set. (Default)
Okay, I have a couple different things--and I do mean vastly different things--to talk about and so I'm sticking them under separate cuts, so people who don't care about the one can just read the other, and vice versa.

Bring HBP Back! )

bra stuff )

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